(I do hate people who try to put people in pigeon holes what is 'right wing')
Compulsory work fare for benefit claimants, or the 'army of social security scroungers' as you prefer for them to be called?
(presumably the you is not me)
The problem isn't lack of work ethic but lack of available work.
If there is valuable community work to be done, wouldn't it make more sense to employ people at a decent wage to do it, and get them off benefits?
Mind you, this isn't going to happen any time soon this Con/Dem government you're so keen on.
(who is keen on? Where does this assertion come from?)
Moreover all the evidence from places where work fare has been tried shows it doesn't work.
It doesn't equip claimants with the skills they need to get a job, because they're compelled to do it they're, not surprisingly poorly motivated and it takes time away from them actually hunting for work. "
This comment, I suggest, comes from someone with very inflexible views.
They are certainly held by some people and are worth discussing.
Who's going to kick off while I try to sort out the issues here.
I believe they are fairly complex.
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Contracting out services are what caused this countrys downfall.
You get what you pay for as demonstrated by Barrows recent none refuse collection.
Any tenders /contracts should run for one month max
Then they would jump through hoops and employ more staff
Then maybe local councils would find it cheaper to employ direct
We knew our bin men,road sweepers,joiners plumbers, painters.
We also knew the forman at the yard who kicked arse when we kicked his !
Not very often as they had pride in their jobs
JAK
'Taking pride' is a very important ingredient.
I certainly felt great pride in the snow clearing we did to our area.
I had a reoccurring thought as I was struggling over sheets of ice as I returned from town on foot:
"I've only got to get to the corner of The Gill and I'm home and dry. Up steep slopes and I can walk with ease to the end of the lane if I choose."
It felt really good to be part of a small team of four adults and one child that had done it all. One of them even said they regretted not having gone further into town.
We did the work not for others but for ourselves.
"To thine own self be true" comes to mind.
When we have the next lot of snow we will do even better!
A clear indication as to whether there is this spirit alive and kicking in Ulverston will be to tour Ulverston and see what pockets of the town have cleared snow. It could be concluded that these areas have people in them who take pride in themselves.
Where were these areas over the past couple of weeks.?
I'm putting up photos of one area I discovered - any others?
Relevant question?
What happens to a generation who are brought up sitting in front of tele for much of their waking hours?
Do they grow up needing others to provide the stimulation to get up and go?
The children I'm spending time with that have parents that don't allow their children to watch televison unless they are watching too have children that are far more proactive and less whiney than the others. These I believe will grow up into adults that won't need a nanny state but will be very proactive in dealing with life in general. Very small sample though.
Watching TV is something I happily have avoided. Didn't ever watch one until I was thirty. Avoided the things for much of my life though had a brief period of watching soaps when I was depressed. Hardly watch now.
Relevant question ?
What happens to those that are told to shut up and listen in school from a very early age ?
What happens to the drive of curiosity and asking why?
What happens if you are repeatedly told that you are a failure by having education that is not geared to your abilities?
What happens if kids don't have a form tutor that takes a close interest in the way they behave every day of their schooling? Some may have many tutors as they go through school. I was lucky to have one class of thirty all the way through their education - they all outperformed the rest of their year by a wide margin.
What happens if you have parents that resent education and only value it as a way of shipping of the kids somewhere so they don't have to take care of them?
What happens to kids who have parents that don't know how to cope with them ? Some parents in Ulverston when they have their kids returned home by the police, tell the police "Take them away - we don't want them".
And I still have some more questions to ask.
Anon or JAK ,i agree with you . Direct labour was inefficient maybe but there was pride in the job. Contracting-out of services was supposed to save money and maybe it does .
Barrow council prevented BIFFA from working by not gritting streets and were forced to declare it was unsafe - what a farce.
And yes ,a good foreman is worth his weight in gold !
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