Friday 9 November 2012

Sainsbury's

Submissions to SLDC Planning are still being accepted I suspect.

There has always been a strong spirit in Ulverston and the surrounding area. It is a people centred town and continues to battle for the people and businesses of the town who, given the chance are self sufficient. It is this buoyant attitude that politicians need to recognise ( and even be wary of). The town attracts people who support it strongly with entrepreneurial flair that will show itself more and more as Ulverston struggles for survival ( The Ulverston Brewery, the Marl International, the LED business  that is now a world leader. Glaxo laboratories that are returning once again.) An increasing number of large companies are attempting to take advantage of imagined opportunities. These they can quickly find are not so attractive as they first thought because of lack of local support so that they pull out leaving gaps in the provision of services. Examples are the Armstrongs Insurance a thriving local business bought up be Swensens only to close shortly afterwards leaving Ulverston without this service. Tesco at the moment are not being supported as well as they had hoped and could close up any day because of the strong competition coming from the community based Coop.

Sainsbury’s supermarket is of very limited value to the town of Ulverston and can cause enormous harm as a result of it’s attempt to gain a foothold. We already have a thriving supermarket with a strong local bias which combines with low cost shops in town to provide and enviable service to the town.

Most of Sainsbury’s appeal comes from sophisticated campaigning which appeals to myths held by some of the public. Ulverston is one of the remaining towns in the country were people value each other highly. With the economic situation even this is being challenged; yet this is precisely when people need to value each other because this is the most important thing in a community: people.

It is a myth that another supermarket is needed in the town for the following reasons:

1. It is not cheaper. Time and time again when the facts are really examined rather than the myths accepted, people find that goods purchased from small well run businesses are cheaper. Furthermore the service comes with a genuine smile based on honest hard work for the community. Local businessmen know how to resource quality products using a network of local suppliers. Butchers can access local farmers with the situation that they even know the animals that have been slaughtered  specifically to provide meat on their counter. Beef that has been fattened with food that ensures quality taste. Where a cheap cut is needed than they again can supply this way below supermarket price. Only this week my family were offered and bought  a pork hock at £1:20 for a kilogramme this gave 500 gm of local meat at a price way below supermarket prices. Vegetables are another case in point where not only prices can be 30% of supermarket prices on the market stalls but local shops provide a far wider range of everyday veg at lower prices than the supermarket.

2. Supermarkets are not need in that most people work either in Barrow or Kendal and shop there. For those that don’t Barrow supermarkets can be accessed by car at £3.50 petrol and with a return journey of less than 40 minutes - a monthly trip being all that is needed. Several local Coops serve the community well with the bulk of products needed that aren’t covered by the local shops.

3. The proposed location is not only dangerous to potential foot traffic but also to car travel being situated where insufficient visibility is available . Through traffic will also cause significant delay on a busy main road, the A590 between the motorway and Ulverston and Barrow.

4. What the new supermarket can offer is free parking at a time when thanks to cooperation with SLDC the car park charges are being reviewed with the criteria that they are set to ensure maximum usage in the town and hence high income rather than a regime over the past twenty years where charges have been in line with the tourist car parks in the Lakes where there is a captured market. Here in Ulverston other towns have benefited from traffic and a thriving market is now struggling in contrast with other northern towns where the town has been able to set the charges to suit the town and ensure that this important resource is used to 85% capacity (Stockbridge Lane by contrast has operated for years at less than 5% and thus bring in only £10,000 per year to benefit SLDC on a car park that was willed to the town for its own benefit..

The high car parking charges have been a nightmare for the trade in the town . Now there is the potential a new era when once again trade will return to the town.

5. The false argument of Sainsbury is glaringly apparent when they state that they will create new jobs. First the numbers are inflated by counting part time jobs but far more important is the fact that for every new job provided it is likely that two will be lost – one to the shops in town but easily forgotten those in the locality that are the suppliers who operate on small profit margins made worse by lower demand these businesses depend on the maximum trade provided by dependable local shops and markets.

6. The last cruel injustice brought to a caring town is that large companies inevitably use many lawyers to take advantage of tax loopholes which in practice the government aren’t able to plug. The small local businessman has no access to these resources of expertise and trades at a disadvantage. MPs have recently demonstrated their frustration with Starbucks, Google, Tesco who pay little to no tax.

Why Sainsbury’s ?  Prominent tax campaigner Richard Murphy, from Tax Research UK states that very few companies are completely "clean": the Co-op bank has an offshore banking arm, the BBC's use of freelance contracts has been attacked. The Guardian Media Group itself has been criticised for holding some of its assets through companies in the Cayman Islands and Luxembourg. It is human nature to take advantages where they are available.

“Starbucks is a nice easy target at the end of the road, and Murphy says the fact the Daily Mail is calling for a boycott shows which way the tide is running. But the problem of tax avoidance is deep-rooted and ultimately only politicians can change the landscape. Their Faustian pact with multinationals has to end. This is about much more than where we buy our morning latte.”

We call upon this planning committee of politicians to support the underdog. The repercussions amongst local people at the sense of injustice will be enormous if they don’t . They have a very strong sense of justice.

The Future

It is important to consider the likely possibilities if a supermarket was accepted. The management of a large proportion of the trade with then pass to remote executives that will have no allegiance to out town. With transport costs rising steadily and the principal of operation of a supermarket being based on the use of wide road networks then supermarkets situated away from the national networks will be the first to be discarded when it is recognised that economy of travel is paramount. Thus the Furness , stuck out on a limb will be very vulnerable.

By contrast local traders with their detailed local knowledge build close links with local suppliers and keep transport costs down. This enables the low costs of food that local shops enjoy.

The successful future surely in difficult times is for trade to remain in the hands of small family businesses who have  a strong feeling of loyalty not only to their customers but also to the farm suppliers they use. Unlike Nationally based companies like Tesco and Sainsbury’s food is not shipped from even Europe whilst fuel prices permit this. Surely this model of supply cannot continue at a time when the worlds resources of fuel are having to be shared amongst  counties like China with their the rapidly expanding fuel hungry middle classes .

No, keeping trade in the hands of canny local businessmen is essential for a town which can take care of itself and could easily be abandoned by remote executives in London or even in Europe – in Germany and Bonn in the future. Here low cost and well managed car parks will be essential not only to local traders but also to SLDC as a sources of income (one lost to the SLDC if a supermarket is in charge).

19 comments:

A. Rhodes. said...

Let us take a walk through this particularly useless shopping town and be HONEST about which "local" shops might be affected by any new supermarket. Lets start at the bottom of Market St, I've marked those I think may be at risk with a *
Tatto parlour
knick knack shop
Youth clothing
Herbalist
Bakers*
Another knick knack shop
Expensive coffee shop
Clothes shop
Another knick knackery and picture framer
Book shop
Cafe
DVD rentals
Florist
Boots Dispensing Chemist
Jewellers
Specialist sweet shop
Cheap Household goods
Travel Agent
Tesco*
Knitting shop
Travel Agent
Hairdresser
Specialist Cakes
Opticians
CROSS THE STREET AND WORK OUR WAY BACK DOWN -
Dispensing Chemist
Hairdresser
Takeaway food
Hairdresser
Pine Furniture
Takeaway food
Ladies Clothes
Bible shop
Bookies
Bakers*
Brocklebanks*
Opticians
Mountain Shop
Pottery
Newspaper office
Charity Shop
Financial Advisers
Paper Shop
Cameras
Co-op*
Irvings*
Health foods.

Maybe a stroll up King Street -

Xmas decs
Carpets
Chippy
Electrical goods
Cafe
Lingerie
Shoes
Ladies clothes
Hairdresser
Estate agents
Chippy
Joinery business
Takeaway food
CROSS THE STREET
Greetings cards etc
Gifts
Leather Goods
Retro clothing
Financial Adviser
Pub
Restaurant/takeaway
Hardware/tools
Deli
Estate Agent
Bar
Bodycare*
Ladies Clothes
Charity Shop.

So that pretty much covers our main shopping streets, illustrates just how irrelevant most of the shops are to ordinary everyday people and shows that not many will be at any sort of risk.Of those that might be, most are national chains Greggs, Tesco, Co-op.

Personally I am convinced that your goodself and the KUS nutters are not mainly concerned with jobs or amenities. Their prime concern is IMAGE, liking as they do to believe they inhabit a Lakeland idyll they just love the idea of twee little gift shops, cosy tea rooms and the "locals" swanning around in knee breeches and sporting shepherd's crooks.

I hear the Dolls House Man is about to shut up shop. Undoubtedly the man is a craftsman of the first order but that shop pretty much sums up the uselessness of Ulverstons "shopping". Now, I must away and fret about where I can possibly buy my next dolls house!

A Rhodes said...

So lets also stroll up New Market Street on the same basis as the others
Salmons Newsagents
Charity Shop
Cash for Clothes
Market Hall
Building Society
Charity Shop
Hairdressers
Business Centre
Off Licence
CROSS the Street
Ironmongers
Building Society
Another Building Society
Carpets
Estate Agents/Financial Advice

So not much risk of closures there.
It seems to me that the hysteria which KUS tries to whip up is largely baseless. Perhaps out of all Ulverstons shops only 2 stand to be at real risk - A greengrocer whose produce is just OK, often substandard and where "local" by and large means Spain, Morocco and Tanzania and a butchers which is good but outrageously expensive.

Geoff Dellow said...

A. Rhodes, I'm a firm believer that people's comments always tell us a lot about the people making the comments.

A. Rhodes said...

And I'm a firm believer in the fact that given the number of businesses which are totally divorced from anything Sainsbury's might offer then the effect of its opening in Ulverston will be somewhat less than minimal.

If you want your hair cutting, want to buy a house or insurance, want to bet on the 2.30 at York, fill a prescription, rent a DVD, buy a wardrobe or frame a picture You will still visit the town centre, post Sainsburys.

If you want to feed the family then you will have the choice of going to Sainsburys, if you wish and the main losers will be Co-op, Booths and Tesco.

So, in my ever so amateur view - no problem!

A.Rodgers said...

Geoff,can you explain your dismissal of A.Rhodes's excellent analysis of the town centre ? His point surely is that the shops cater for tourists rather than locals. I reckon I have only been in 20% of the shops on his list.
Frankly ,I am sick of being told by KUS and others that certain retailers will be bad for Ulverston. One councillor was almost hysterical about Costa Coffee . In my view ,Costa will provide a decent sized meeting place for the younger end or those who prefer not to go in pubs. It might even have toilets.
People like going to supermarkets ,they like the bigger choice of goods and they like the ease of parking. When Sainsburys comes it will be Booths that suffers not the small shops in town. The ' canny local shopkeepers ' will still be there but they might have to become more flexible. If they were so desperate for trade they would open on Wednesdays and Sundays.
Forty odd years ago ,vested interests blocked an Ulverston bypass ,fearing loss of trade. Instead we got a 4-lane road which split the place in two. The same type of narrow-mindedness is apparent today from KUS. They like things the way they are and all change is bad. Not true ,times change ,people change. The town centre traders will have to adapt to survive . I have been self employed for 35 years in various forms ,I have struggled at times but I am still arouind.

Geoff Dellow said...

You, A.Rodgers, see my comment as dismissive. I naturally don't - having spent many hours over many months thinking about this issue, I have put my best reasons forward. To answer other comments would be, I suspect, repetitious. I am not one to get obsessed by an issue - life is too short. I have other more pressing things to think about. I need to, as they say , get a life. This life consists of building relationships with people that I can talk to face to face and not through this caghanded mode of communication. Clarinet comes way ahead of Sainsbury's now that I have written my magnum opus. Time to look at more interesting stuff - been there, done that , got the 'T' shirt.Come talk to me on a Thursday 10 till 1 - follow the sound of the clarinet in the town centre. Otherwise arrange a time for coffee to suir you.

A.Rodgers said...

Fair enough Geoff ,I'll treat you to a coffee when Costa opens !

Geoff Dellow said...

Thanks for the detailed analysis provided by others. My reply is that I don't agree. Sainsbury will make a difference providing an alternative location for businesses out of town which will lead to less businesses on the high street. An illustration is the loss of Armstongs Insurance. More and more businesses will close if Ulverston town ceases to provide a centre for all types of business.
If Sainsbury takes off then why not hairdressers, clothes shops, and every other kind of shop in the units that are next door: in the same way that could happen at the Booths location where the provision of free car parking is the draw.

We are talking about the survival of a very effective way of business where small local businesses provide services tailored for local people: one that is totally different to that provided by big remote companies who have no personal interest in providing a service for Ulverston.

We are talking about different philosophies : one where people matter, as opposed to the alternative where they don't, a philosophy that pulls every trick in the book - tax avoidance, use illegal immigrant labour, shipping livestock across great distances, poorly regulated business practices - run for the profit of the rich remote shareholders run by skilled executives and PR personel.

I leave it to others to argue their viewpoint - I've done my bit.

Geoff Dellow said...

I don't believe you will be treating me to a coffee - why wait - there's business to be done now. For instance the loss of a vital service of Face to Face Citizen's Advice Centres here in our town and not remote call centresin a remote city ( or even country). Same theme and philosophy - people matter - now.

A Rhodes said...

Mr Dellow - you STILL have not explained why you feel that the opening of Sainsburys will close any shop in Ulverston Centre. You make several sweeping and very general observations/assertions but you never get down to the particular!

The truth seems to me to be that, as it stands, Ulverston has no shops in the centre which might be affected. Tesco might be, but you hate the sight of them (am not keen myself), Co-op will be. Then we just have Irvings and Brocklebanks. Thats it!

"Local businesses provide services tailored for local people" So they do. Can't disagree. But local people (such as there are in town businesses) all run businesses that WILL NOT BE remotely affected by Sainsburys. Think Leather Goods, Shoes, Carpets, Hobbicrafts, Pottery, Hardware, Hairdressers, Financial Advisers, Clothiers, Opticians, etc etc etc

If KUS and fellow travellers wish to live in chocolate box villages then I suggest they all decamp to Little Rotting in the Marsh or maybe Grasmere and leave Ulverston to those of us with our gfeet on the ground!

Geoff Dellow said...

A. Rhodes I have put my reasons down. Some people agree that they are very persuasive arguments. If you want to debate them I will do this face to face. This enviroment of reasoning is not set up for debate where defining term, presenting facts and back and both exchange are essential. I have other more important things to do. My purpose is to get others to be convincing and leaving those that readd both sides to make their minds up. I do have one more point to raise because I've not seen it mentioned yet.

Geoff Dellow said...

Note. Roger Linsay has commented previously:

I thought the Sainsbury's pitch was a big improvement on the Hartley's Brewery proposal. Ulverston Co-op is too small, Booths is too expensive, Tesco in Ulverston is a convenience store, not a supermarket.

Sainsbury's bid seems to offer a store of appropriate size and I imagined that because of economies of scale it would offer cheaper produce than local stores.

You've blown that one out of the water and I also have to accept your argument that overall chain stores take money out of the local economy.

Trouble is that if people want a big well-stocked one-stop shopping outlet, & there isn't one in Ulverston, rather than using local shops people will simply drive to Barrow & Ulverston will lose their trade completely.You can park free at most Barrow supermarkets - shop in Ulverston and you pay tourist rates to park whilst you have to visit 4 or 5 small specialist shops.

So I'm totally convinced by your argument that supermarkets squeeze profit out from the neighbourhoods in which they're based, but still fear that Ulverston might need to have one, just to keep local shoppers from travelling outside the town.

Something that might help would be a concessionary car park tariff for local residents. This could be achieved by issuing Ulverston residents with 50 parking coupons apiece when they pay their Council Tax. Each coupon would confer 3 hours parking. This would give each household one free shopping park per week.This might buck local trade up a bit.

I very much doubt whether keeping out supermarket will be enough on its own to reverse Ulverston's declining attractiveness to shoppers.

Geoff Dellow said...

I agree with Roger we need to provide a level playing field for our traders particularly our markets, the success of which has a great influence on the overall trade in the towm.

Car Park charges need to be set on the criteria that car parks are 85% full as is done in other forward looking towns - often at no loss in income for the District. It's a good business model operated by successful businesses in the town such as the Stan Laurel pub. High usage , high turnover , low prices maximum enjoyment.

Let's be part of a town that really pulls together.

A. Rhodes said...

I've read, re read and even re-re-read your comments and, for the life of me I cannot fathom from your various generalities and self serving observations EXACTLY which shops in town might be affected or under threat from Sainsburys. It would be the work of only a moment for you to rectify this, I look forward to reading your reply!

Geoff Dellow said...

Basically, A. Rhodes, I don't know. You're asking me to predict the future. Predicting which is for me a futile exercise.

How can one predict the whims of the Ulverston public? The main point is that local businesses will act for the benefit of the community which is for the benefit of the local economy, They need all the support and encouragement that we can provide. On the otherhand Sainsbury and other supermarkets will act for the benefit of the share holders who couldn't care less about Ulverston with all that this implies.

A Rhodes said...

True you cannot predict the future. BUT you sure as shootin can predict that anybody who wants leather goods, a tattoo or to place a bet Will not be going to a supermarket.

I rest my case.

Geoff Dellow said...

Poor case when as I've suggested before that there is provision for units adjacent next to Sainsbury's. Why not these? There are also buildings next to Booths looking for a use why not these?

A Rhodes said...

Is it the suggestion that Dickinsons, Smith/Harrison, Domus, Tinners Rabbit etc will note the success of Sainsburys and decamp to their site?

Geoff Dellow said...

At this point I opt out. Has anyone else got a comment to make.